Carlton 1st 323 Prestwich Cons 1st 296 (played at the Libs)

M O Rourke (35) 100 D Owen (-48) 69
P Rawlinson (-20) 100 A Lester (-48) 37
J Hague (-20) 100 C Laithwaite (-35) 59
J Bailey (-30) 71 A Conchie (-48) 100
C Rawlinson (-20) 52 R Capron (-43) 100

Very close game...

Joe

Crumpsall Cons 1st 463 Carlton 2nd 430

B.Moxon (-5) 100 T.Jones (-15) 93
D.Consterdine (+5) 100 R.Barnacott (-30) 37
C.Weekes (+20) 90 D.Moran (+10) 100
S.O'Neill (+20) 80 J.Collins (-10) 100
D.Silver (+20) 93 W.Gibson (-5) 100

not sure of the scores but we had 4 winners MBM,tully,big ron and the g-man.
won the agg quite easily against church inst 2nd team.
Libs 1st team in the next round well done boys..................
(p.s next round Libs V Libs, im not saying nothing lol)
:ph43r:

Churcu Inst won against Pres.Cons 2nd,played at The Workies-exc.venue.

I dont want to harp on about handicaps but how can it be that a 2nd Division team gives a 1st Division team a 110 point start

Maybe giving 2nd teams a 50 point handicap start over 1st teams in the team ko's would be a fair way of doing it? By and large, handicaps have been earned in the respective divisions against a different calibre of player.

I have to agree, the 2nd division teams should be given at least 10pts per man and if this was the case Carlton would have been through this round

Come on King David open up the debate and equalise the competitions the way you have equalised the league handicaps

That said, Steve, we were both part of a second division team that did the quadruple a couple of years ago - we had to give starts in some cases then but did it.

Same old story,I've never read a letter of complaint about the opposition handicaps before a match or if they win,sounds like sour grapes to me.

Brian,

It's not a complaint from the Carlton, though, it's an observation from a Stute player. People won't complain in writing - there's too much apathy in the league as it is so people are hardly going to trouble themselves to write a letter of complaint to David.

Regards,
Mark

apathy is the word....cant blame dd..he tried to accomodate with 4 man teams...what we need is new fixtures for 2nd div billiards play 3 times like 2nd div snooker and changes to ko handicaps is too late this year.... we should arrange a special general meeting of all clubs to set out format for next season... perhaps you can make a notice for each delegate now and arrange it for december to make sure as many as poss turn up...then we can sort out before end of seasoim sure dd will be glad to see all delegates turn up...normally only 1 or 2 go to the meeting

Brian

Its not sour grapes from me its just seems a little unfair for a 2nd Div team to be giving a 1st Div team 110 start, surely you must agree whether its you who benefits or not

Regards

Why dont we have the dates of the monthly meetings on this site

It's the first Monday of every month at the Stute.

the only gripe i have is that peoples billiards handicaps are based on there snooker!!!
anyone agree ??????
just me havin a moan coz i think this applies to me :P

All handicaps are computed using a declared formula according to results.Each game is computed independantly.The formula is available to anyone interested enough to ask dd.

Handicaps !!

I have been known for the odd winge on handicaps, but is there an answer??

e.g

I have unfortunately been put on -21 this season at snooker, I have lost my last 3 matches, i can evaluate every performance, saying that one game i got a beating, one game i played like a pro and my opponent potted 3 balls all game and won the game and one i lost on the pink. You dont know who you play every match until you look at the team cards, Last season was my best season, (but its the one match game and off similar handicaps, you have a chance. !!, you play some players in the league who are on +15, +20, +25 and you are giving potentially 46 start at snooker, i feel thats where the problem lies. I believe a lot of players including myself think that the difference is too great and that some of these big plus players can actually play the game or can at least score 20 to put you potentially 66 behind.

You will never please everyone, and I think DD does a good job for the league ( I cant see people queuing to take over). If anyone has got any good idea's let discuss them on here and put them forward to Dave D.

Yours truly

Joe

Finally got our match played tonight.
Well done Shaun on a big win to take the pressure off the two lads left on after him.

Carlton 1st v Whitefield 1st

Dilemma for Carlton turning up with 6 players and having to drop one.
6 straws were got from the bar and Joe was the unlucky one to draw the shortest. Good laugh for everyone (except Joe!!) to start us off.

On to result.

Carlton v Whitefield

P Rawlinson 58-100 G Duncan
M O'Rourke 78-100 D Veitch
P Ryan 100- 91 M Moses
C Rawlinson 80 -100 A Thorpe
J Bailey 91 -100 J Fallon

Carlton 407 Whitefield 491

these things happen.. eh, you should be glad you didnt get me Gaz as our recent meetings have been a little one sided in my corner (but who's counting. ha ha.



Good Luck in the next round......


joseppi...

We did the same down at the Libs - took six but Craig wasn't bothered about playing anyway.

Well done to the Stute on progressing - nice 39 break from Kev

I think names on trophies give a clearer picture Joe!
But hey! Who's counting ;)
Good luck in Butterworth :(

Libs 1st team progress into the hat by fending off the challenge from the Crumpsall 1st team..
Nip and tuck all the way through with wins by Tom,Ron,G-Man and me with the help of a break of 37 which were all pot reds after potting his white !!! much with the disgust of mr tully ? hehehe.
Nice job boys well done

narrr Gaz.... your like my Liverpool side, good in the past... but the back starts to go, the eyes arent the same as they used to be and before you know it, your match is like a Jim Fallon from last night nearly one and a half hours in duration.....

Feel for ya pal



ha ha ha ha ha

Joe

4th March
Team KO billiards semis
Man U play return leg v Lyon that night. :(

Point being ???

Nothing!
Only saying. Not bothered myself ;)

thanks fine by me then !! red sh*t anyway hehe

Billiards KO Semi-Final at Stute

Whitefield scrape home despite big win for Ron.

so no trophies for the libs this season then

who cares

still in the semi's of the snooker knock out so no not out of everything